Now it's English devolution, Clegg style.

[Aggers]

I honestly feel we are much stronger together!!!!

So do I.

And I think that our Prime Minister, if he had any guts, should have the Scottish leaders who are
advocating devolution arrested and charged with treason for attempting to break-up Great Britain.

I'm sure they are only advocating this for their own personal glory. They need to grow up.

[Workingman]

Whoa, who are the treasonable parties? The Scottish independence Referendum Bill, setting out the arrangements for the referendum, was put forward on 21 March 2013, The terms were agreed by the government (Cons) and it received Royal Assent on 17 December 2013.

Who is treasonable? Is it Alex Salmond for proposing it, the UK government ministers for agreeing to it, or the Queen for giving it her assent?

Should they all be arrested for Treason? Yes, probably.

[Suff]

You see. This is why the Scots are flocking to vote Yes.

1. We might be stronger together. But the Scots feel the price is too high and everything goes the way the English want it.

2. It's now treason to allow the voters of a country (remember Scotland is a Country not a political region of England), to choose whether they want to remain in that political union or not?

The same things binds the UK into the EU as binds Scotland to the UK. Namely a treaty with a signature on a document. So if it's treason to decide whether Scotland wants to exit that treaty, then it's treason to want to do the same with the EU.

You see his, exactly this is what is driving the Scots to vote Yes. Let me be blunt here. Scotland is NOT a Possession of the UK. Therefore any talk of treason in allowing the Scots to democratically decide their future; is nothing more than power and domination of a smaller nation.

Wars have been fought for less. Did we learn nothing from the breakup of Yugoslavia?

I'm sorry if this is blunt, but there needs to be a rethink here from south of the border. The Scots King who took the English Throne came from a longer line of solid monarchy than the English one. Scotland is nobodies possession.

[TheOstrich]

I quite agree that Cleggy, as a good European, desperately wants to see us all regionalised. Regionalisation sounds very neat and plausible, and indeed, I might even have said, let's give it a go if it devolves certain decision-making powers away from Westminster, but at this point in time, as Cromwell has opined, it's simply playing into Brussels' hands.

I think much depends on what we consider our overarching prime political objective to be.

I see Scottish independence as a means of assisting us in freeing us from the yoke of the EU. I believe that we are more likely to win a referendum to exit the EU as rUK than as Great Britain, because the Scottish Yes vote will energise those who abhor the EU, and they will know that if we campaign hard, political independence from the EU can be similarly achieved.

So I hope Scotland votes "Yes". It could be a scene-setter. It's other, greater political ambitions I have my eye on ........

[Suff]

Regionalism is just their way of federalism by the back door. Once we're federalised, then they can take over and remove the "country".

Ossie I also would like the Yes campaign to win, for England, as much as Scotland. I believe that a Scots Yes vote will drive serious political change in England. That change will lead to a referendum on EU entry for the UK.

I believe that that referendum, only voted on by England, will be an Out vote which will force the UK out of the EU.

Now comes the timing and negotiations.

If the UK remains in the EU, the 2 year negotiations for Scotland to leave the UK will give the EU the ability to "bless" the Scots state for EU entry. So, literally, Scotland will slide from UK to EU without pause. I firmly believe that the EU will do this to mitigate the damage of losing all the money and resources that Scotland represents. Regardless of how Spain feels about their spin off parts who want to leave.

Now, of course, if the rest of the UK choose to leave, then Scotland is going to be cast out with the rest of the UK. Because if they lose the UK, then Scotland is not going to matter that much and the case for sliding from UK EU to Scot EU will be sunk.

If you follow my meaning.

I believe that a Yes vote in Scotland will precipitate changes that many want but don't believe they can get.

Convoluted? Absolutely. Unlikely? Who knows.

[pollR78]

i agree with kaz - we are stronger together.

have to say not ALL Scot's are flocking to vote yes...drive around different towns and cities and you will soon see there is a huge mix of yes and no....roll on Friday is all I can say.

poll x

[shazsha]

have to say not ALL Scot's are flocking to vote yes...drive around different towns and cities and you will soon see there is a huge mix of yes and no....roll on Friday is all I can say.

poll x

Definitely a huge mix of Yes and No-it looks like it's going to be tight whatever way it goes. I had to laugh today. My nephew' friend was saying he was passing through Coatbridge when he saw two houses, side by side. One was absolutely covered in No campaign stickers, leaflets, etc. while the one next door was covered in Yes Leaflets, etc. He said it looked as if they had vied with each other to get their message across. And bang smack in the middle of all their leaflets they had a sign saying 'Good Neighbours'.

Let's hope that no matter what way the vote goes it won't cause lasting damage within families and friendships.

[medsec222]

It's all turning out to be a bit of a farce with claims and counter-claims. The pros and cons, benefits and risks should all have been publicised right at the beginning, giving the Scots plenty of time to make up their minds. Both sides are now slugging it out at the last minute. Very undignified and sad for the rest of the UK to watch.

[Suff]

I don't see that the white paper on independence has changed. The No campaign, on the other hand, has been increasingly strident and vitriolic as it see's it's lead vanish. In fact, were I to choose between who I would believe or not, I would believe those who's message has changed the least.

Which is the Independence message.

Poll, of course we are stronger together. But that does not mean it is better. I was looking for a job in the middle of the Thatcher years. I had to take Employment Training when I left College and I went to 48 companies in FIFE asking if they would like me free for 6 months. I got two interviews. One company simply said that if they had an opportunity in the future they would contact me but they couldn't afford the chair for me to sit on at that time. I was fortunate that the second was looking to expand and gave me a placement then a job.

That is the reality of making long term decisions on short term personal comfort factors. You don't know when the next Westminster government will sacrifice Scotland for it's home vote in England.

That is the whole decision here. If better together means knuckling under when the going gets tough and taking the pain for someone else, I'd rather take the pain alone and plan my own future

The Yes campaign is about future planning. The No campaign is about fear for the immediate future.

[Kaz]

Let's hope that no matter what way the vote goes it won't cause lasting damage within families and friendships.

Hear hear!!