When will they bloody learn

[miasmum]

I am sorry but I am so so angry. Two little boys dead and an adult.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-20845938

As soon as they said multiple fatalities from one car we both said 'they'll be Asian"

Last year a young lad at the school I worked in was involved in a serious road accident and had a serious head injury.

You see them time after time, over crowded cars, children bouncing about all over the place, no seat belts, no car seats.

I know we don't know the facts and I may be wrong, but I bet I'm not

Why don't they realise we have seat belts and car seats for a reason

[JoM]

Shell, we said exactly the same thing! We see what you described frequently on the motorways, we're close to the M6 and use it a lot, and when you look in the car it's always occupied with people of (how to put this?) Indian subcontinent origin

[miasmum]

I am not even going to say this is not racism, as it obviously isn't racism it is just sheer ignorance and stupidity and would be the same no matter who were driving the car

[Suff]

By our actions we have taught certain sections of our society that they don't need to observe the rules.

Hence they have to learn, the hard way, what we already learned.

If they live to learn.....

I learned a salient lesson from an aircraft crash inspector. He was talking about societies and their "value" on life. What he was saying, in a roundabout way, was that if you want your life to be secure, look at the value the country/culture etc puts on life. Because the more value they put on life, the more they will do to ensure that your life is safeguarded. Naturally he was talking about pilot training, aircraft maintenance etc....

Now apply that to the current situation

Not a happy place is it????

[pederito1]

Whether or not you believe it was an assassination I am sure Di and Dildo would have survived if they had been wearing belts. I have thankfully not had to have recourse to belt or air bag..er yet, anyway.

[Workingman]

It is ironic that one of the most successful safety campaigns ever run was fronted by one who eventually became one of the most despised of all people, but it worked.

We were harangued day and night to "clunk, click" and we did. It might have been backed up by law, but it was the common sense of it that worked on us. It became a reflex action, second nature, for those of us who lived through, it and we passed it on.

Unfortunately there are now those who did not live the campaign and who have not had it handed down - and, yes, a lot of them do come from cultures where things are seen differently. Maybe it is time for another campaign, as has had to be done with "Think! Don't Drink"

[KateLMead]

In Bangladesh it was quite normal to see small "children" and adults climbing onto the roofs of trains where they sat when we went down country. No safety belts!!!!

Betcha's pedaled by the cyclist filled to capacity weaving their way through heavy traffic...
Your life in their hands... Old Habits die hard...

[Aggers]

India is a different country with different lifestyles.

Take this for example:

QUOTE:
Official figures show that 228,650 of the total 256,329 violent crimes recorded last year in India were against women.

Not relevant ? Well it just shows they have different values than us.

[miasmum]

But these people aren't in Bangladesh they are here. They are young, they have young children, jobs, they are Westernised, so why does this one hugely important thing escape them

[Workingman]

I don't know the answer to that, I wish that I did.

What I do find rather strange, though, is that everything seems to have been forgiven. It's fairly new, and not just this case, it's a modern concept.

It appears that the tragedy is considered punishment enough, and it probably is at the personal level, but three people died and there has to be an element of manslaughter involved. Had the children bee belted in, as they should have been given their ages, they would not have been thrown about like rag dolls in a tumble drier once the car overturned. The might have survived.