Decapitation in London.

[Suff]

Interesting isn't it. Once upon a time we had our own radical racists. They were white, wore short hair and, sometimes, wore Nazi armbands. They shouted, swore and used the N word a lot. They go into fights and used iron bars and threw things. Seriously bad people we had to enact loads of legislation banning them, had to try and send members of the BNP who were from their ranks to jail so they could no longer stand for parliament.

Really, Really BAD indigenous British people.

Now we have a different form of racist. They can say "almost" what they want, without fear of condemnation. They can use the N word as much as they like. They go out in the street and kill people.

Have we enacted laws to stop them?
Have we sent their hate preachers to jail or back to where they come from?
They're not even indigenous to Britain which means that we imported their "kind" of hate

Are we now just finding out that most indigenous British are actually quite genteel and ordered in the way they hate people?

I wonder where this is going to end? Nowhere good for The British. We should stop, wind the clock back some 40 years and start again. We know which laws are needed and which are just plain stupid now. I have no fait that this will happen short of revolution.

I was a solider. I've been there when one of our own was murdered by terrorists in a civilian place minding their own business, just because they wore the uniform and others were doing what the terrorists didn't like. I feel for this man's family and I wish the police had shot to kill. But that's just me, I know. I also know how many would like to go to that community and return the compliment, with interest.....

This time the government needs to act. Time for a petition to the government on the re-enactment of the death penalty.

[TheOstrich]

Suff, I couldn't agree more about restoration of the death penalty for terrorism.

It's variously reported that the perpetrators were either British born or Somalian. What's the truth here?

If they were émigrés, we have, to a great extent, brought this terrorism problem on ourselves thanks to foreign adventurism and over-generous asylum granting. That needs to stop here and now.

And we know which politicians to blame, don't we ......

[pederito1]

Agree with the death penalty but it could make them into martyrs and I imagine most if not all would be happy to die in their "cause" Probably got the idea too that they would go straight to meet Allah, whatever brains can they have? The thing though that I cant get my head around with the death penalty is the state authorising anyone to commit murder by carrying it out. On the other hand it is dreadful to think of the cost of keeping some wretch in jail for a long time. The only thing I liked about the incident was the lady cop jumping out of her car and blasting away at one of them with her machine gun.

[Suff]

If you are sentenced to death it's not murder. It's vermin control.

My DIL is a lady cop. I could see it.... I notice nobody has shouted about "excessive force". I mean she attacked them with a machine gun and they only had knives... Or is that just for "ordinary" criminals. I find their double standards "interesting". Not that I'm arguing that she should not have done it you understand....

[KateLMead]

Agree with the death penalty but it could make them into martyrs and I imagine most if not all would be happy to die in their "cause" Probably got the idea too that they would go straight to meet Allah, whatever brains can they have? The thing though that I cant get my head around with the death penalty is the state authorising anyone to commit murder by carrying it out. On the other hand it is dreadful to think of the cost of keeping some wretch in jail for a long time. The only thing I liked about the incident was the lady cop jumping out of her car and blasting away at one of them with her machine gun.

Yes it took a woman, no hesitation to do the deed.. And it also took a woman to approached them trying to calm them down..
I saw a number of men on the side lines doing nothing other than observing the horror and filming the scene on their mobiles. But then knowing our crazy law, Had a man interfered (and that looked unlikely! he could probably have been charged with some felony..

[Workingman]

It has been announced that the monsters were known to the police and security services. The news will be seen as good news in some quarters.

[pederito1]

I regard the deliberate killing of one human by another as first degree murder, as the yanks say, whether authorised by the state or not. The punishment I would really like to see for the sexual killing of a little girl would be burning at the stake. This gets over my executioner aspect as the friends and relatives of the victim could all throw a match and it would not be known who started the fire. Fraid it wont happen though. Back to Woolwich it is dreadful that it took the police 20 minutes to produce one with a gun with all their sophisticated radios and fast cars in abundance. Why cannot all policemen have a hand gun like other countries?
I imagine tasers have a short range, useful as they are. At least Cameron has done something good for once, allowing soldiers to wear uniform in public, they should have hand guns too for protection if they are likely to be attacked in the street though hopefully this is a once only occurrence by a couple of fanatics steamed up about Mali. I dont think it can be an organised group as they had such crude weapons.

[KateLMead]

Pederito...Remember some months ago the publican refused to allow a number of soldiers attending a comrades funeral to enter the pub as they were in uniform he should have been forced to close down...
I thought Cameron sounded a bit Churchillian.. Better we saw some action! and the deportation of these people regardless of orders of Judges the EU and those bloody Uman Rites brigade and took these matters head on. We are more at risk since B'Liar took us into Iraq, and destroyed the country all for OIL and Afghanistan To Get rid of the poppy fields. (excuse my mirth) What comes next?

[Kaz]

25 years old with a 2 year old son, and had served this country for 6 years, and then to get hacked to death on a London street. It's just terrifying and so very sad..........

I think these men were random lunatics, rather than from an organised terrorist cell......the man who spoke to camera had an African surname and a South London accent, I recognised it

[TheOstrich]

I think these men were random lunatics, rather than from an organised terrorist cell......

They've arrested two more people, Kaz, so whilst it doesn't seem "organised" like 7/7, there's a number of "acquaintances" the police now appear to be rounding up, it seems.