Manston

[Workingman]

If they weren't breaking the law and every international refugee treaty to boot, nobody would be talking about "conditions".

And if the UK was enforcing those rules then nobody anywhere in the world could complain - the 1951 Convention is clear. Unfortunately, for decades governments of all colours have failed to act within them.

Another problem is that the UN has muddied the water by saying that refugees and asylum seekers do not have to apply in the first safe country they enter, but it is only an opinion as there are no signed rules or treaties to this effect.

It appears that the elites and our rulers want to allow and forgive illegal immigration against the wishes of their own populations.

[Suff]

And they are going to pay the price of it over time.

[TheOstrich]

Jen, if you live reasonably close to Manston, is there a genuine problem about disorder / asylum seekers breaking out / young Albanian men wandering into your kitchen, as variously reported in the more right-wing press? Well, the Daily Express ? Are local folk worried? I'm not sure I'd like to live close to such a camp.

[jenniren]

There's definitely a problem with violence Ossie, gangs from different countries attacking each other. There has also been violence against the workers and yes people living nearby are worried. Obviously hearing that Albanians have broken into local houses near the Dover centre hasn't helped.

The word 'invasion' isn't wrong, a large proportion landing here are definitely not refugees, at least 40% are single men from Albania. Most people here are thoroughly fed up with it and can't understand why the latter aren't sent straight back to where they come from. As for any suggestion they're owed compensation for delays really takes the biscuit.

[cromwell]

Some statistics re the dinghy invasion.

From an article in The Spectator.
Nearly nine out of ten arriving are males (87%). Of those 75% are aged between 18 and 39.
Inbetween 1 and 2% of all the men in Albania have already made this journey.
Fortunately for them, the UK is a soft touch. If you pay for a boat from France, burn your papers, and say the right things, you stand a good chance of being given asylum. This is why Britain grants 76 per cent of asylum claims, compared to the EU average of 34 per cent. If you’re Albanian, your chance of getting in is 52 per cent, against just 8 per cent in France.

Even if their application fails (and they can try tricks like claiming to have converted to Christianity) they can still just drift off into the black economy; and every year the number of deportations fall.

There is no political will to address this problem.
That is why when someone like Braverman starts talking about it, the rest of Parliament explodes in rage, trying to shut her up; because the rest of them can't or won't do anything about it.

I think the EU / France stats on granting asylum are the standouts for me; they do something about it; we don't.