Public Health England - Again

[Gal2]

I’m going to a hub on Friday, it’s very close to our head office branch. I’m not sure what the actual building is though

[Workingman]

Debih, I do understand about the BT/Pf vaccine, but the pharmacists were talking the O/AZ one.

Same with crash teams, but there are many pharmacies attached to modern GP surgeries so we might only use those.

I think that what is being missed with all this is that pharmacies have trained personnel in place and are ready to go. We do not have to rush head on to retrain or uptrain tens of thousands of others. They can be trained more slowly and thoroughly and be brought on stream as we build up reserves of the vaccines and open more vaccine clinics.

My surgery is in a hub of five but only the biggest surgery / clinic is doing the inoculations. Patients from the other four have to go there and for me that would be a two bus trip there and back or a taxi. All of the other surgeries have either an attached pharmacy or one a few doors away.

We need to remove barriers to this not make bureaucratic excuses to put them in place

[miasmum]

I would hope every surgery has an emergency bag Debih.

Its the hoops they have to jump through that are putting pharmacists off. Radicalisation, child abuse (they dont have to vaccinate children). safeguarding etc etc. Its takes so long there's no point, they'd rather just do their normal job. Same as retired medics.

I spent this afternoon ringing our over 85's. We had four days to book over 100 in for this weekend. The hardest part is listening to them trying to work out how they are going to get across town to our hub. I wish we could just hire a couple of minibuses and sort it for them. One couple, 89 & 87 asked me if I would mind ringing their daughter as she is a midwife and they werent sure of her shift pattern. Apparently she is on nights all weekend so couldn't possibly take them. I'm no good to my mums and babies if I have no sleep am I. I offered any slot between 2pm and 6pm, no I need to get some sleep. I offered her Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday, no she was on nights all weekend. They'll just have to hope when you ring them next time it fits in better with my shifts she said.....selfish bitch

At least at the same time I booked them in for the second vaccine in March, lets hope it doesnt get cancelled again

[jenniren]

I spent this afternoon ringing our over 85's. We had four days to book over 100 in for this weekend. The hardest part is listening to them trying to work out how they are going to get across town to our hub. I wish we could just hire a couple of minibuses and sort it for them. One couple, 89 & 87 asked me if I would mind ringing their daughter as she is a midwife and they werent sure of her shift pattern. Apparently she is on nights all weekend so couldn't possibly take them. I'm no good to my mums and babies if I have no sleep am I. I offered any slot between 2pm and 6pm, no I need to get some sleep. I offered her Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday, no she was on nights all weekend. They'll just have to hope when you ring them next time it fits in better with my shifts she said.....selfish bitch

At least at the same time I booked them in for the second vaccine in March, lets hope it doesnt get cancelled again

What a truly horrid daughter

[JoM]

That’s awful Shell!

We don’t seem to have anything happening around here. My Dad still hasn’t had any follow up to the text he received from his surgery on Dec 12th enquiring if he wanted the vaccine. My Mom had a call from her surgery yesterday but it was just them checking to see if she had a blood pressure monitor at home so that they could send her a chart to record her readings on. She asked if there was any news about the vaccine and was told that they hope to get some in the next few weeks. That’s one of the largest GP surgeries in the area which operates on two sites.

[Suff]

Also, our GP in the know has told us that as it is such a new vaccine (both the Pfizer and the Oxford) that are wanting to do them in a clinical setting so a crash team can be on site.

I can understand the PF vaccine needing that level of support, but the OA vaccine is not a new live vaccine; it is a modified ChAdOx1 MERS-CoV vaccine, which was worked on a decade ago to immunise against MERS.

An abundance of caution is one thing. 1,000 people dying a day because no vaccination is being rapidly distributed is another thing entirely.

[Suff]

I would hope every surgery has an emergency bag Debih.

Its the hoops they have to jump through that are putting pharmacists off. Radicalisation, child abuse (they dont have to vaccinate children). safeguarding etc etc. Its takes so long there's no point, they'd rather just do their normal job. Same as retired medics.

I spent this afternoon ringing our over 85's. We had four days to book over 100 in for this weekend. The hardest part is listening to them trying to work out how they are going to get across town to our hub. I wish we could just hire a couple of minibuses and sort it for them. One couple, 89 & 87 asked me if I would mind ringing their daughter as she is a midwife and they werent sure of her shift pattern. Apparently she is on nights all weekend so couldn't possibly take them. I'm no good to my mums and babies if I have no sleep am I. I offered any slot between 2pm and 6pm, no I need to get some sleep. I offered her Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday, no she was on nights all weekend. They'll just have to hope when you ring them next time it fits in better with my shifts she said.....selfish bitch

At least at the same time I booked them in for the second vaccine in March, lets hope it doesnt get cancelled again

If you talk to her again mm, you might want to suggest that you can recover from a lack of sleep, but dead parents are forever!

[cruiser2]

We had a phone call in early December from our surgery asking if we wanted anappointment for the vaccination.(I will not say "jab")
We did not want it then as I was still having check on my eyes and blood pressure.
I also had an appointment for a pedicure and mrs.e was having an aromatherapy.
So we should get a phone call soon to arrange an appointment. Hopefully it will be at the surgery which is only half a mile away.
The nearest large center is Salford Royal hospital about 20 miles away.
Will let you know what happens.

[Kaz]

My god Shell, that's shocked me! What a horrible daughter - and she's a medic so knows how vital it is

[Kaz]

Cruiser, with all due respect this is somewhat more important than a pedicure. There are vulnerable people desperate for this jab, yet you turned it down for the sake of convenience. I don't say this to upset you, but I think some sense of proportion is called for....