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Re: Korea and The US.

Postby KateLMead » 31 Mar 2013, 11:34

Like you Aggers I am in the winter of my life, physically and metaphorically!! (Probably spelt incorrectly) all that we strived for wasted and we are now ourselves considered wastage, a burden on the state on the tax payer .. This country has in general terms been in general run by idiots since Churchill, and he was not the most popular when it came to other parties. At least the population had guts in my day, We have a country full of half educated young people who are unable to communicate, spell, who have been let down by the education system, university degrees obtained by studying such programmes as Coronation St and Emmerdale!! All these ridiculous titles.. Tzars.. Academies.. A good education cannot be gained by giving these establishments fancy names that mean nothing... There are good teachers I have two friends who are good teachers they are in a cleft stick since the order came in that teachers must not retaliate under any circumstance .
when a trouble maker kicks off, this has placed them in an isidious position as it has with parents, (many of whom just do not care anymore as they are fighting a losing battle) As are our forces who are now ruled by crazy rules like "not to shoot first on the battlefield".. What a country we have become.. "Nothing to recommend it" I have told my youngest to get out of this country, Australia.New Zealand.. There is nothing to stay for in this God Forsaken Country where the indigenous are no longer allowed to be referred to as English!!! Grrrr...
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Re: Korea and The US.

Postby pederito1 » 31 Mar 2013, 11:48

Cheer up Kate xx Spring will come eventually followed by our usual two or three days of summer. :D But back to Korea, he must be quite mad to want to take on america, there is little doubt he could land a nuke in the South but probably not accurately. Then I expect the yanks would turn the North into something resembling moonscape. No knowing though how Mr Jin would react with the possibility of Armageddon. Utterly deprecate the yankee provocation and intimidation which may have inspired Kim`s reaction.
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Re: Korea and The US.

Postby KateLMead » 31 Mar 2013, 12:07

Oh Dear pederito, I wish I could be less negative..I hope you are right.. Waiting for that sunshine to lighten my state of mind.xx
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Re: Korea and The US.

Postby Workingman » 31 Mar 2013, 19:31

Kim's Young 'un, or whatever he's called, is playing a clever game.

He is stretching the US military to its limit, and it is costing them a fortune, whereas for him it costs nothing.

The size of the US military is draining the country dry, which is what happened to Russia, and one day it will have to stop. The reset button will have to be pressed.

The Chinese regime and military must be laughing their silly hats off. They are not going to step in and stop things.
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Re: Korea and The US.

Postby Suff » 31 Mar 2013, 20:03

WM the payload from the NK LEO missile was equivalent of a 500kt nuclear warhead. Or 10 times the Hiroshima bomb. The only real difference between a missile to obit satellites and a missile to deliver a nuclear warhead? The mount on top of the missile has to be stronger to support the smaller and much higher density of the nuclear missile.

Our missiles have up to 6 MIRV at 500kt or one warhead at up to 25MT. You don't need much imagination to work out that a 500kt bomb the same size as our 25MT bomb is feasible for them. A decade ago NK was buying thousands of PS2 games machines. They had written a custom parallel computing OS for them and they wanted them for nuclear modelling. There is only one thing you need that number crunching power for, 2 stage fusion bombs. You need the computing power to model the plasma flow in the exploding fission bomb that activates the fusion bomb. You can now do the same work on a dozen or so PS3's. Pretty soon you'll be able to do the same work on one high performance graphics card for a modern game.

We should not be complacent here. KJI(2) is a nutter. He is a typical result of a child brought up by an absolute ruler. To whit, someone who grew up with the power without the realities of the power.

As far as I can see, NK has the ability to deliver on it's threats. It is likely that they will. Then the US will totally destroy them.

Horrific as this may seem, it might actually be a good thing. If you can call killing tens of thousands of people with one bomb, followed by tens of millions of people being killed, a good thing.... I know it takes a certain mindset. But in the long run it's billions of lives we are talking about here and when you have a cancer you cut it out.
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Re: Korea and The US.

Postby KateLMead » 31 Mar 2013, 20:33

Oh Suff am I feeing less worried? No I am not. The man looks like a nutter and his determination to embroil his nation in what could prove to be mass destruction for thousands of his people shows that he is utterly irresponsible . One can only hope that he has not got the missiles that he is using as a threat.. And let us hope we keep our noses out of the problem.
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Re: Korea and The US.

Postby Aggers » 31 Mar 2013, 21:28

Kate wrote:Oh Suff am I feeing less worried? No I am not. The man looks like a nutter and his determination to embroil his nation in what could prove to be mass destruction for thousands of his people shows that he is utterly irresponsible . One can only hope that he has not got the missiles that he is using as a threat.. And let us hope we keep our noses out of the problem.


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Re: Korea and The US.

Postby Workingman » 31 Mar 2013, 21:32

Suff wrote:WM the payload from the NK LEO missile was equivalent of a 500kt nuclear warhead.

No it wasn't, it was a LEO rocket with a communications payload. A 500kt warhead is much, much heavier than a telecoms satellite. Honest. It was not an ICBM with a targeted payload, it was a shot in the dark.

Yes, we can play games of destruction with a fantastic graphic card, but we would need the hardware to make them work.... and the hardware is not available to gamers or NK.
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Re: Korea and The US.

Postby Suff » 31 Mar 2013, 22:05

Workingman wrote:No it wasn't, it was a LEO rocket with a communications payload. A 500kt warhead is much, much heavier than a telecoms satellite. Honest. It was not an ICBM with a targeted payload, it was a shot in the dark..


I'm finding it very hard to get concrete specs on the NK launch. I have a good friend who was an operations manager for the European Space Agency. I think I'll drop him a mail and see if he can tell me the specs and capabilities of the NK missile launch. BTW 500kt warheads are now pretty small. Comms Satellites are pretty damned BIG.

Workingman wrote:Yes, we can play games of destruction with a fantastic graphic card, but we would need the hardware to make them work.... and the hardware is not available to gamers or NK.


Actually it comes down to sheer integer grunt on the graphics cards. 5 years ago the max CPU capable password cracking on a single computer was measured in thousands per second. Today it's in the single digit millions per second. GPU (graphics card) password cracking now reaches 9 billion password attempts per second and that was on older hardware. I expect that to hit 20 billion per second by the end of next year on a single machine. That kind of power is WAY more than was available to the US when they computer modelled their "dial a yield" (5kt to 135kt), aircraft nuclear missiles.

What this means is that the computing power is available to NK to shrink their nuclear weapons. For every single test that NK does, there will be thousands, if not millions, of computer simulations. The tests are purely to confirm the computer models in reality....

Don't believe the soft soap of the governments. NK is a much more dangerous threat than they would like us to believe. Then again, as I said above, that might be a good thing in the long run.
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Re: Korea and The US.

Postby Workingman » 31 Mar 2013, 22:45

I do not for a moment argue with the NK computing power capabilities, but reducing the size/wieght of a warhead is another matter. To then make it accurately deliverable over thousands of miles is not down to software. It has to be made physically possible. That is not easy.
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