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Postby Workingman » 25 Jun 2017, 16:02

The Times is reporting that some leading Cabinet Ministers want Hammond to take control and become PM, with Davis as deputy. Others actually wand Davis as PM and some even want Johnson. Very few appear to be rooting for May.

This all comes on the back of earlier reports that Tory rank and file as well as local Conservative associations want shut; and polls now showing that Corbyn has overtaken her as most suitable as PM.

Something is going to have to give. Either the Tories put up and shut up or they have a proper leadership contest with, hopefully, a clear leader. Whether there is a unifying candidate out there is anybody's guess, but the country needs the bickering between the two sides within the governing party to end.
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Re: The in-fighting has started.

Postby Suff » 25 Jun 2017, 16:23

What the Tory ministers need to do is shut up when the press come around and get on with governing the country. If the press want to dish dirt, they can dish it about some other subject.

Sadly ministers are egotistical peacocks and won't stop talking till they are no longer of interest to the public.
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Re: The in-fighting has started.

Postby Workingman » 25 Jun 2017, 17:56

Suff wrote:What the Tory ministers need to do is shut up when the press come around and get on with governing the country.

They're too busy jostling for position to be doing this governing a country malarkey.
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Postby TheOstrich » 25 Jun 2017, 18:03

Workingman wrote:They're too busy jostling for position to be doing this governing a country malarkey.


Jostling for PM? It amazes me somewhat that anyone would actually want to grasp such a poisoned chalice ....
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Postby cromwell » 25 Jun 2017, 18:13

TheOstrich wrote:Jostling for PM?


Never heard of him, he must be an outsider. :mrgreen:

If the Tories aren't careful they are going to implode. The last thing this country needs is a leadership election right now.
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Re: The in-fighting has started.

Postby Kaz » 26 Jun 2017, 08:13

Hammond was our local MP in Runnymede, and is actually a decent fella. He and Mick had quite a correspondence going when we lived there, about the extra long closures of the three level crossings there due to extra Heathrow trains, and he always replied personally and sympathetically.

They could do worse.
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Re: The in-fighting has started.

Postby Workingman » 02 Jul 2017, 14:36

Well, they have all lined up this weekend.

The most useless person on the planet, Damian Green, MP, oxygen thief, says the nasty party has to win over the young vote and austerity is not helping.

Gove wants the government to listen to public pay bodies i.e. lift the pay cap.

Johnson wants 'free movement lite' to help the City.

Davis is hamstrung by May's 'red lines' and wants them lifted.

Adams says there will be no power sharing deal in NI so it's direct rule or an election.

Shere Khan wants to take over Kensington and Westminster council.

If this is 'strong and stable' government God help us if we ever get a weak one with no idea what to do tomorrow.
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Re: The in-fighting has started.

Postby Suff » 02 Jul 2017, 17:04

Workingman wrote:If this is 'strong and stable' government God help us if we ever get a weak one with no idea what to do tomorrow.


Strong and stable government required a good working majority.

Weak and crippled government == coalition.

May can't do anything else. She didn't get the votes. So people didn't vote for strong and stable government so they don't have it. Not a hard one to work out.
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Postby Workingman » 02 Jul 2017, 17:40

Suff wrote:Weak and crippled government == coalition.

Are all coalitions weak and crippled? A few of those in Europe seem to be doing quite well in keeping the extremes at bay, does that make them weak?

Coalitions tend to drift to the centre, which is where most of the electorate tends to be, and so deals have to be done.The end result is not weak, it is pragmatic.
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Postby Suff » 02 Jul 2017, 20:59

None of them deliver what the voters voted for. The difference is that they have lower expectations so see that lack of performance as normal.

When very strong government is needed, it tends to be lacking. Witness Germany and the migration crisis.
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