Finest NHS in the World???

[KateLMead]

What?
Governments and MP,s are in cloud Cuckoo Land.
The outrageous treatment ministered on the King family and little Ashya who was dying
In the Southampton Hospital, ripping his loving parents away from him because they wanted to get Proton treatment for him giving him a chance to recover (however small). The NHS has been found to be a disgrace, euthanasia practiced (whether you like it or not to empty beds occupied by the elderly.)
Foreign doctors and nurses many of whom do not have the command of the English language. And who are in the news for sexual abuse, u yahoo failing to attend an elderly woman who had collapsed outside of the surgery "because he had no certificate to practice FIRST AID."
"Pathway" in whatever form carried out without the families consent. Not only for the aged but as we have seen by the shocking attitude with respect to little Ashya who had little chance of survival and whose parents were thrown in Jail in Spain where in desperation they had taken their son with the intention of giving his a chance to survive with Proton treatment that they have obtained thank Gosand, and the British (no longer English) hospital authorities and doctors lying through their teeth to blame the parents of this child. We also have Old people and the handicapped in homes for the young and elderly being abused.
The jNHS is third rate depending on who is treating you. £5'000 paid for doctors flown in from abroad for a week end work!! And £1'000 for agency nurses.!!!
We ar lucky if we get dedicated doctors, and a great many of them are, however the ones at the top need thoroughly vetting not made excuses for when they have committed disgraceful acts and are I caught out as so often revealed.
I cannot fault my treatment and my oncologist, or the one who looked after my late husband, however the radiotherapy
has left me with problems that makes one wonder just how qualified the youngsters are who administer it.
Our hospitals are packed to capacity, it's there for the few extra million who have walked into this country and those who fly in from other countries "just for treatment"
Have the perpetrators of this shocking case apologised regarding the King family? Have they hell,
Have the police apologised for arresting and threatening his loving parents and throwing them in jail? Have they hell, have they apologised for the forced abandonment of this child who howled throughout the day and night in distress, confused thinking his mummy daddy and loving brothers and sisters had deserted him in a country where he could not even understand the language and who who were refused admission to visit this grieving child.
This country has become a police state, but sadly the police are also not fit for purpose anymore. We bless the NHS if we are lucky enough to survive illness etc where our lives depend on them. And we have reason to do so. However the establishment needs a good clean out, along with the police force and the NHS so as such a situation never happens again.

[cromwell]

My next door neighbour G is currently in hospital. He suffered for years with some muscle wasting disease until he finally got a diagnosis. Recently he was being helped by a physio to try and build up his strength when he fell (the latest of a series of falls) and broke his foot. He is now in hospital. This new, expensive hospital has no facilities for rehab treatment like he needs - unlike the old hospital, which did. The fools who run the NHS signed up to a mega expensive Private Finance Initiative deal to build the new hospital. It's currently costing the NHS just short of £40 million pa! There are fewer beds in the new hospital than the old; every room in the new hospital has a tv - but none can be switched on, because it would cost the local NHS trust more money under the terms of the PFI deal! The sister in G's ward Is a lovely woman, but is Spanish and can barely speak English!
And so it goes on. NHS staff do much good work but it's organisation and leadership seems to be an ongoing car crash.

[Workingman]

The NHS is a typical example of change to mend things rather than change to improve things.

Was it in the 1970s when Regional Health Authorities (RHA) were introduced? I seem to remember that the "old" NHS had become a leviathan too big to be managed from the centre and needed to be broken up into RHAs. Then it was found that RHAs were not much better so they were constantly tweaked. Then came the internal market, probably the worst thing ever, and those markets needed tweaking as well. Then PFI.... then scrapping PFI.

It happens all the time in government, national and local. Things get changed, but when the changes do not work or improve things they get changed again. Nobody ever goes back to square one to scrap the changes made and try again with a new set ..... So we get a culture of constantly changing the changes - or digging the hole deeper.

[KateLMead]

This morning we hear as we do most days that "we have the finest Health Service in the world"
Pausing for breath. "The NHS is in a critical state of collapse" now who you believe is your choice.

[cruiser2]

SIL was recently in hospital. When one of the doctors came to see him, mentioned his treatment when he was in the hospital earlier this year. But this was the first time he had been in hospital this year. There were two notes on his file which belonged to another patient.
This is now the subject of a formal complaint as it could have affected his treatment.

[KateLMead]

SIL was recently in hospital. When one of the doctors came to see him, mentioned his treatment when he was in the hospital earlier this year. But this was the first time he had been in hospital this year. There were two notes on his file which belonged to another patient.
This is now the subject of a formal complaint as it could have affected his treatment.

Get furious......get the press involved.

[pederito1]

"As You Like It", appropriate I think to the NHS and the Bard wrote "Sermons in Stones and Good in Everything". and there is lots of good in the NHS, many people have had wonderful treatment they could not possibly afford otherwise. There are however bad eggs as in those involved with Ashya who ought to be jailed, there are also those patients who expect too much and get frustrated if they do not get a miracle cure. Dreadful amount of waste and authority follies like PFI hospital disasters, IT systems that do not work, compensation for cancelled contracts and for malpractice which are quite excessive, far too many overpaid staff particularly management in hospitals. Could go on for ages if I had time. I have had excellent treatment since registering here and I do appreciate it is all for free
including pills but I am very circumspect in dealings and if a high risk is involved I seek salvation elsewhere, eg back and knee operations.

[KateLMead]

I totally agree Pederito

[Lozzles]

Well, I have seen both the good and the bad in the NHS over the years, but mainly 'the bad' was down to a particular doctor or a particular ward.
Fortunately I have found to have had mainly good experiences, so I will not complain.
I have used the NHS an awful lot over the past couple of years and on the whole I have found Salisbury District Hospital and my own GP surgery pretty darned good.

[Kaz]

I've had some dreadful experiences (being put in a mixed ward overnight whilst miscarrying was pretty dire) but also some really good experiences too. It is definitely the curate's egg, the NHS