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Teach "British Values"

Postby cromwell » 10 Jun 2014, 10:37

After decades of being told of the wonderful vibrant multicultural nature of modern Britain, the government now wants schools to teach British values.
What are these values?
And why all of a sudden is it necessary to stress them?
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Re: Teach "British Values"

Postby Paddypix » 10 Jun 2014, 10:39

More gimmicks which will be loudly trumpeted and then quietly forgotten. It's too late to turn back the tide.
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Re: Teach "British Values"

Postby Rodo » 10 Jun 2014, 10:52

It is necessary because if we don't, then many children will be taught Islam values such as stoning to death and female genital mutilation.
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Re: Teach "British Values"

Postby Workingman » 10 Jun 2014, 13:26

Gove: the latest fully paid up member of the Soundbite Club.

Does anyone have a definition of these magical British values?
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Re: Teach "British Values"

Postby Paddypix » 10 Jun 2014, 13:43

Rodo wrote:It is necessary because if we don't, then many children will be taught Islam values such as stoning to death and female genital mutilation.


Yes, it's necessary Rodo, but will it actually happen? I doubt it. As WM says, Soundbite Man.
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Re: Teach "British Values"

Postby Kaz » 10 Jun 2014, 14:44

Rodo wrote:It is necessary because if we don't, then many children will be taught Islam values such as stoning to death and female genital mutilation.


I think you might well be right :(
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Re: Teach "British Values"

Postby Rodo » 10 Jun 2014, 14:53

Well I don't know what British Values is as a subject, but I do know that it must incorporate anything that guards against shutting out all other religions; that guards against bombing people because they are a different religion; that guards against treating women like second-class citizens and worse than that.

Teaching British Values must surely instil the knowledge that in this country we do not use our religion to punish, kill and threaten people of different faiths. We treat women as equal citizens, not pieces of meat. We do not segregate the sexes in establishments of learning. We have democracy and freedom of speech. We have the freedom to vote for whom we please. We do not try to force our religious traditions and our eating habits on those of other religions. We do not use gang rape as a means of punishment or manipulation. We do not stone women to death, whatever their perceived crime.
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Re: Teach "British Values"

Postby Kaz » 10 Jun 2014, 15:09

Well said 8-)

Personally, I think that religion should be taken out of school completely - schooling IMO should be secular, as in France......I think fairness, equality and humanitarian values could and should cross all religious divides....
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Re: Teach "British Values"

Postby Rodo » 10 Jun 2014, 15:15

Kaz wrote:.....I think fairness, equality and humanitarian values could and should cross all religious divides....




Yes it should, it really should.
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Re: Teach "British Values"

Postby Paddypix » 10 Jun 2014, 15:25

Yes, well said Rodo. I totally agree that religion should have no place in education, nor indeed in government.
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