Now this I 100% agree with

[meriad]

It's a pet peeve of mine when people block box junctions. There is one very close to the station I use and it's a nightmare when people block that junction because no-one can go anywhere

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... ences.html

[debih]

It annoys me too but I don't think they should fine as sometimes it can't be helped.

The other day when I was going to the hospital the traffic was flowing fine, I entered the box thing and the traffic suddenly just stopped, with me stuck in the box.

[meriad]

I totally understand and agree to some extent, but according to law you shouldn't have entered the box junction in the first place if it wasn't clear ahead.... but then again rules were meant to be broken and believe you me I'm no angel when it comes to driving and I break plenty rules .

But on the other hand; on my way to the station there is a box junction and the number of times people don't want to be stuck at a red light so as it's turning amber they quickly move forward and then get stuck in the box because the traffic ahead hasn't cleared. And as a result is that two sets of traffic lights can't clear / move because the junction is blocked.

[TheOstrich]

Oh dear, on balance, I think box junction cameras are nothing more than a cash cow for the council, I'm afraid, and I don't agree with them at all. In fact, I'm not entirely sure I agree with box junctions .....

.... but I don't think they should fine as sometimes it can't be helped.

Absolutely this. Near us there is a traffic crossroads with a box junction (The Yenton, Wylde Green). Three lanes of traffic north / south, two lanes of traffic east / west. But on the west side, the two lanes rapidly become one lane and as debih says, you are in the lap of the gods whether traffic suddenly stops and blocks you or not. Now imagine turning right (from the north) into this road (going west). And this junction is also traffic light controlled. If you didn't "force" your way out into the box junction, many times you'd simply not stand a chance of swinging round into the west-bound road, because it simply clogs up.

The solution is to revise junctions like this so there is adequate room for traffic to flow through and past it without hindrance.

Imagine coming from the top of the picture and turning right ......

https://maps.google.co.uk/maps?ie=UTF-8 ... JMBEPwSMAs

My personal solution? I never turn right at this junction. I pick my way round back streets so if I want to pick up that west-bound road, I'm approaching it not from the north but the east - so I go straight across.

If they put a camera on this junction, they'd make a fortune ......

[Workingman]

"Thou shalt not enter the box junction unless thine exit is clear."

Simple enough. No rocket science qualifications required.

If there is not a car's length clear at the exit you wish to use you do not encroach onto the junction. It matters not whether thou ist going straight on or turning left or right.

Any transgressor of this rule will immediately be removed to the stocks where an ample sufficiency of rotten turnips will be supplied to the general public for the purpose of lobbing at the resident of said stocks.

[meriad]

Any transgressor of this rule will immediately be removed to the stocks where an ample sufficiency of rotten turnips will be supplied to the general public for the purpose of lobbing at the resident of said stocks.

If it's me in the stocks can you please please please make sure it's fermenting grapes that are thrown at me and not rotting turnips.... please

[TheOstrich]

As much as I laughed at the last two posts, the bottom line to me is that the local councils are out to strip your money away from you these days, any which way and however they can.

Where's Robbin' Hood when you need him?