Election result

[Workingman]

If either Badenoch or Braverman gets the party leadership, the Tories will simply render themselves unelectable.

A lot will depend on the make up of the rCon parliamentary party. Which side lost the most MPs of the 250 who now have a P45. Were they ERG or One Nation types? Then of the two left standing it will be down to the Blue Rinsers and Monocles to pick.

The list of possible contenders and their odds is here. It's a frightening read.

[Suff]

Ben Wallace would have been a good choice. But he saw the writing on the wall and bailed. Turns out it was a good move. He has the choice of coming back or doing other things.

[jenniren]

The party can only blame themselves,their behaviour in evicting Boris with an 80 seat majority was absolutely crazy and the shambles since hasn't helped. Blaming him is absolutely ridiculous. Sadly Rishi was part of that plotting and has paid the price, history shows us the party faithful rarely reward backstabbers. Interestingly I saw on the news this morning it was the lowest turn out since 1945. I think a lot of people who would normally vote Tory just couldn't bring themselves to vote Labour and either didn't turn out or voted Reform as a protest. I actually know quite a few people who did that. Personally I have nothing against Nigel Farage, but most of the rest have some very unsavoury views. Personally I think the Tory party made a huge mistake not bringing him into the fold after the Brexit victory.

As is the fact that the so-called Pro-Palestinian movement has more MPs now than Reform or the Greens.
To me that's an extremely sinister development that will only further fracture our already fragile society.

I agree Ossie.

Well now we're stuck with Mr flip flop Starmer for the next 5 years, always supposing Angela Rayner doesn't stab him in the back somewhere down the line. The best to hope is he doesn't keep all his election promises, taxing pensioners, small businesses, house owners etc etc because with such a big majority a lot of people will be remembering the saying 'be careful what you wish for'.............

[Workingman]

I saw on the news this morning it was the lowest turn out since 1945. I think a lot of people who would normally vote Tory just couldn't bring themselves to vote Labour

That is undoubtably true, Jen, but as I reported earlier. one of the reasons given for the turnout being low was that for many people the result of the election was already known and so there was no pressure on them to get out and vote.

If the result was widely predicted, why bother? The party is irrelevant.