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That sinking feeling...

Postby cromwell » 19 Feb 2023, 11:24

Aaaaand into the bottom three we go.

Leeds United that is.

The first season after promotion was wonderful, since then it's been like watching a tightrope walker who has taken to the high wire after drinking five pints of Tetley's.

Thanks to Raphinha's goals last year we stayed up - just. This year it looked like Rodrigo was going to do the same, but then he got injured.

Oh well, we might still avoid getting relegated but maybe our luck has run out now.

If the San Fransisco 49ers take us over though, like Arnold Schwarzenegger - We'll be back!
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Re: That sinking feeling...

Postby cruiser2 » 19 Feb 2023, 11:30

Wigan once had a reasonable soccer team. But they are now at the bottom of the Championship.
The glory days seem to be over. Have never watched them.
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Re: That sinking feeling...

Postby JoM » 19 Feb 2023, 19:02

Crommers, if they put in the same effort every game as they did at Old Trafford the other week then they wouldn’t be in this mess!
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Re: That sinking feeling...

Postby Workingman » 19 Feb 2023, 22:59

There is a reasonably strong squad with some very good players. Unfortunately Marsch did not seem to know how he wanted them to play - there was no plan A never mind B or C.

At the back everything seemed so lethargic and slow, but up front it was all frantic with players geting in each other's way. Disorganisation seemed to rule.

I think that it is too late to rush getting a new manager in at this stage. We might as well stick with what we have and hope.
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Re: That sinking feeling...

Postby JoM » 03 May 2023, 09:48

Big Sam. What are you thoughts Frank and Crommers?
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Re: That sinking feeling...

Postby miasmum » 03 May 2023, 17:10

Mine are, why do they wheel him out, yet no one ever keeps him????
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Re: That sinking feeling...

Postby Workingman » 03 May 2023, 21:46

Jo, the predictions are that a team with 37 points has a 93% chance to stay up. 35 points and it's down to 58%. 33 or below and it is a certainty.

With the four games we have left, three against top six clubs, I cannot see us getting anywhere near those. We need to have the other four teams do worse than us or we are down.

Big Sam is only keeping the seat warm whilst we look for a manager to get us out of the Championship, and tbh honest they might as well have let the remaining coaching team have a go on a freebie.
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Re: That sinking feeling...

Postby cromwell » 04 May 2023, 18:30

Big match for us is Forest V Southampton. If Forest win that it's bad news.

Jo, four matches isn't time to judge a manager is it really? Hopefully he can pull a rabbit out of the hat but it's odds against.

Our problems have been the recruitment of players, which has veered from very good - Raphinha, Gnonto - to the inexplicable - Georginio Rutter.

We have needed two good defenders and we have needed a goalscorer for two seasons. We still don't have one. But in the meantime we have bought wingers. Gnonto and Sinisterra, maybe Aaronson to go with Summerville and Harrison. BUT out on loan we also have Helder Costa, Daniel James and Ian Poveda - all wingers!
That's a lot of wingers! So now we are supposed to be chasing Akhomach from Barcelona - who is another winger!

Then despite needing a goalscorer and / or defenders, we break the club record on buying Georginio Rutter from Hoffenheim, a palyer who two coaches have rated as not good enough to start a match. We have also overpaid for a couple of others.

Leeds had a squad which needed a lot of strengthening when we got promoted, but the recruitment has been all over the shop.
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Re: That sinking feeling...

Postby JoM » 12 May 2023, 12:59

Gnonto was a stand out when we played you this season.

Recruitment is crazy isn’t it. It’s so easy to see what positions need strengthening yet they’re ignored. We’ve had the same issues. Players have been bought, but they’re not the right players.

It’s hard to see who could come in as manager for next season. Leeds, to my mind, are a big club and should be playing in the top level but who on the usual managerial roundabout is going to come and either keep you up or get you promoted? Maybe Graham Potter perhaps?
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Re: That sinking feeling...

Postby cromwell » 12 May 2023, 13:35

I would be very happy with Graham Potter. Or Thomas Frank or Gary O'Neil.

Recruitment is strange these days. Who actually has the last word on signings? The manager or the director of football / sporting director?

Nobody really knows.
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