Striking nurses.

[Suff]

Mrs S was an auxiliary in a mental hospital outside Dundee for a while. She is VERY for the old system.

[cruiser2]

My mother was a nurse and I had an auntie who became the Matron of a military hospital in India in the war. Both trained the old SRN way.
I also knew a nurse who trained the old way. When the first nurses came onto the ward after the degree training they said they were not going to give out
and empty bed pans as that was not what they had been trained for.

[cromwell]

The degree course business is putting women off a career as a nurse imo.
A relative by marriage was a nurse for many years; she said if she'd had to take a degree course (and end up in debt at the end of it) she wouldn't have bothered.

[Suff]

Biggest issue IMO is this constant ramping of the national living wage without working out that people who trained for years and paid for education are getting little more.

In that case why not drop out and stack shelves??

[Workingman]

In that case why not drop out and stack shelves??

Because it's a £13,000 pa pay cut?

£604 pw for a full time skilled worker v £390.75 pw stacking shelves. I do understand, but a skilled worker gets a higher starting salary and with the same % increases they are always better off.

However, if they want a £13,000 pay cut good luck to them.

[Suff]

Student debt, other debt, years lost.

Some will say sod it.

Degree qualified RSN's earn just ove£9k more than the minimum wage. Not 13k. They get this for 2 years before it climbs.

However they come in at band 5. There are 4 bands below that level for differing levels of nursing.

Level 1, nursery assistant, earns less than £2 per hour more than the minimum wage.

The 19% demand is not just for RSN'S.

The last pay deal was balanced so the lowest paid got the largest raise. I doubt this 19% demand will factor that in.

I can see RSN's saying "I studied for years, paid for my degree and "only" get £9k a year more than an illiterate street sweeper.

[Workingman]

Please!

Student nurses get a non-repayable fund of £5,000 per year and can get another £1,000 on hard to fill courses as well as access to a £3,000 hardship fund. They can also get additional travel and accommodation costs to clinical placements over their normal daily travel costs

Around 94% of them are in full time work within six months of qualifying.

Hard done by, compared to other undergraduates on 'real' degrees, they are not.

The minimum a newly qualified nurse gets is £27,055. Piss poor eh, no wonder they go stacking shelves!