Beginning of the end for Johnson?

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Re: Beginning of the end for Johnson?

Postby Suff » 10 Jul 2022, 16:54

To be honest they can take anyone they want as far as I'm concerned because it is a 2.5 year stint and then they are out after losing the election.

I will re-join the party in 2024 so that I get my vote in for the next leader.

Personally I hope they vote in a complete idiot who is obscure and therefore totally and completely clean. Meaning we have an idiot running the country for the next 2.5 years.

After all Anyone is better than Johnson right? That was the whole idea of this campaign to destroy and evict a sitting PM wasn't it?

I have no vote but I"d be voting Shapps.
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Re: Beginning of the end for Johnson?

Postby cromwell » 10 Jul 2022, 17:00

Lol, well he certainly matches those requirements!
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Re: Beginning of the end for Johnson?

Postby medsec222 » 10 Jul 2022, 17:17

I have found the whole debacle a big disappointment. After the country almost came to a halt under Theresa May's watch with her diminishing majority and the struttings and posturings of John Bercow, I had a sense of relief when the Conservatives got in with such a big majority as I felt that we had a government which could actually govern. Sadly this has not turned out to be the case, as COVID, the increase in fuel, and war in Ukraine etc, is enough to knock any government off course. We have had a horrible unproductive two and a half years since the Conservatives were elected and the last six months have been the worst of all. I really hope that we are not in for a period of in-fighting amongst the candidates with more revelations from the likes of Dominic Cummings, as he has already hinted he could dish the dirt on one or two of the possible candidates. For the sake of the country and the well-being of the majority of us, the Conservative Party needs to elect a leader who is capable of dealing with at least some, if not all, of the problems that will need to be dealt with as soon as he/she is elected.
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Re: Beginning of the end for Johnson?

Postby miasmum » 10 Jul 2022, 19:02

My money is on Liz Truss
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Re: Beginning of the end for Johnson?

Postby Suff » 11 Jul 2022, 13:13

My money is on the weakest overall candidate.
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Re: Beginning of the end for Johnson?

Postby cromwell » 11 Jul 2022, 13:22

Oh blimey, not Grant Shapps? :o :o

There's a rumour that Jacob Rees-Mogg might stand. Can't see that myself, but you never know.
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Re: Beginning of the end for Johnson?

Postby Kaz » 11 Jul 2022, 17:13

They've been talking about The Honourable Member for the 18th Century on our local news. He hasn't thrown his top hat into the ring - yet! :roll: :cute:
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Re: Beginning of the end for Johnson?

Postby cromwell » 15 Jul 2022, 09:04

Well Braverman is out, next vote on Monday.

To me the outstanding candidate is Kemi Badenoch. She appears to have real Conservative principles, she is calm and intelligent and can hold her own in debate. She paid her way through college by working and she is a qualified engineer.

However it looks like it's going to be Mordaunt, Sunak or Truss.
Lord Frost launched a pretty devastating take down of Penny Mordaunt the other day but she appears to have the membership behind her. Sunak is way too smooth for me. His protestations of loyalty to Boris Johnson ring pretty hollow and he's an ex-Goldman Sachs banker parachuted into a rural constituency. He's also yet another Oxbridge PPE graduate. :roll:
Liz Truss I don't know much about but she seems to be rather dull and lagging behind the other two anyway.
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Re: Beginning of the end for Johnson?

Postby Workingman » 15 Jul 2022, 09:58

With the exception of Tugendhat they are all ERG members or ERG stooges and that is enough for me not to want any of them.

If a Labour election was run under similar rules and the majority were Momentum supported the press would be going ballistic.

Sunak is a lizard in snake's clothing and Truss is so bland, dull, insincere and incompetent it will probably be one of those two.

Isn't it strange that as a country we plebs are only allowed FPTP voting but the Cons can have multiple changes of mind - how democratic?
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Re: Beginning of the end for Johnson?

Postby Suff » 15 Jul 2022, 11:29

You got your constitutional right to elect the party. The leader of the party is decided by party members.

The fact that our constitution, such that it is, says that the PM is the government t and the PM is the head of the party is not the fault of the Conservative party.

All parties which have governed have changed leader from one time to another.

If you don't like this one blame the peope who wanted to oust the sitting government. Which means yourself too.
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