Fiat Chrysler, Groupe PSA merge to become Stellantis

[Suff]

Another day another new merger.

I hope they don't stop making my favourite cars.

[cromwell]

FIAT, Chrysler, Citroen and Peugeot? And Peugeot already own Vauxhall.
Stellantis.
It seems an awfully long way from the days of the Moggie Minor. Chrysler used to make yank tanks with big V8 engines too; I suppose they will go the way of the dinosaur.

[Suff]

Well so long as Stellantis doesn't become Atlantis....

[Suff]

This is the future they are all trying to get to.



Pity the software doesn't work properly. But that's VW for you. Neither did their emissions controls either. Seems they're better at crippling software than at making it work.

Of course there are others

[cromwell]

Christ Suff, that's terrible!
No roof or interior - it'll never catch on!

[Workingman]

It's what the fanbouys want. Trash the physical environment for battery powered people movers running on angel's breath and unicorn dung. It's happening but for the fanboys, the truth, keep it quiet.

Electricity is the future, 'tha noes'.

There are no downsides, not one. We will all be free to go (but monitored) where we want, when we want, and nobody will know how or when we did it: ever.

Welcome to the super new world, and all it's free energy - or maybe not.

Oh, hang on - payments and cashless. Yes. Everything you buy, be it carrots and spuds, or car power will be logged. They (the ptb) will know everything about you, and the new battery powered electric vehicles will be central to their knowledge. Your movements will be logged.

Go electric, go state control.

[Suff]

Christ Suff, that's terrible!
No roof or interior - it'll never catch on!

Ah, you wanted this one? The future.

Enjoy.

https://www.thecarconnection.com/make/new,tesla

These are the models to beat.


Model X








Model S









Model 3







Model Y



Yes this one is driving itself.






Finally, the big contender. The ID.3.

Enjoy.

https://youtu.be/2hn31vLKgho?t=7

[Suff]

Talking about the future and competition towards traditional auto manufacturers.

Below is a video of a drive from San Francisco to Los angelese. I starts in downtown frisco and takes you all the way to LA.

Notes.

- An intervention is considered where the driver has to stop the car doing what it is doing and make it do the right thing. In this case no interventions are required
- The driver has to touch the wheel or press the buttons on the wheel every so many seconds or the self drive will disconnect. This is a safety feature for the software until it is fully capable and certified
- This drive has been done on a set of roads that FSD does not have mapped. The only mapping is standard google maps and the Tesla equivalent mapping data.
- Every other competent self drive system available today requires this route to be laser mapped in extreme detail and for the vehicle to have all that data downloaded locally so it can compare the road with the pre mapped digital image.
- The Tesla software can do this on any street, lane, dirt road, regardless of whether it is on a map or has been pre mapped.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQG2IynmRf8

This is the future.

It doesn't need to be connected to the internet, it just drives.

Last year Tesla Autopilot was like a 9 year old in charge of a car. Today it is like a 15 year old learner driver. Within 6 months it will be like a driver who has newly passed their test. The main difference is that every vehicle with this software will be able to drive at the same standard.

And back again.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPrsRM2cxGs