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Postby Suff » 03 Feb 2015, 09:17

In Britain. What we have to look forward to.

It is starting and growing but only slowly. The words "British culture" and Britishness are coming back. After all, being British is not exclusive or elitists nowadays. It is a society which anyone can be part of no matter what religion. However when you demand exclusions, when you demand concessions and when you abuse trust, that is not "British".

There is a growing community out there which equates "Multiculturalism" with "Anything goes so long as it's not white ethnic".

About time that ended. Voting Labour won't end it. They pushed it to these levels and will maintain them because they get votes from these communities.
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Re: Multiculturalism

Postby Workingman » 03 Feb 2015, 10:48

I am not sure about the link. it takes me to an article about a corrrupt mayor.

There are, however, a couple of articles on Sky about the situation in the French banlieux where multi-culturalism is now collapsed into "apatrtheid". They take a while, but eventually get to the bottom line that the problems are Islam and Moslems. It is the banlieux where Islam dominates that are now seen a ghettos and open to radicalisation through poverty and isolation.

One day they will wake up to the fact that it is easy to radicalise members of a radical religion which is so out of tune with western values and which brainwashes its young from an early age. Poverty and isolation are being used as excuses, with the lie that curing them will cure the problem. Nothing coulod be further from the truth.

Maybe what the intended article was saying is that the British have woken up to the real problem.
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Re: Multiculturalism

Postby Suff » 03 Feb 2015, 13:05

The article is about a corrupt Ex Labour Mayor in multicultural London who has abused his "Ethnicity" to the nth degree. Also calling the replacement Labour candidate racist and leaning on people in the Islamic culture to vote on him for his religion rather than his eligibility.

That form of "multiculturalism" directly opposed to British society. Although it's going through the courts now as a simple corruption act, it should be going through the courts as corruption, racism and religious elitism. Then we might get a real idea of what is going on in our "Multicultural" Britain.
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Re: Multiculturalism

Postby TheOstrich » 03 Feb 2015, 13:21

You will recall the fuss a few weeks back about the Fox News pundit in the US who committed the gaffe of saying Birmingham is totally Moslem and the city centre is a no-go area for ethnic whites. He was roundly derided and had to apologise. In fact though, if you look at the incident in hindsight, there was a righteous hysteria behind the rebuttals, almost too much so. If Birmingham were the self-confident multicultural and diverse-friendly city the City Council and local Media would like you to believe, then surely Brummies would have laughed the slight off. But no, that's not what happened, they made him bare his buttocks and slapped him until he had made not one but (at least) two fulsome apologies, even interviewing him on video-link on the ethnically-biased BBC Migrants Today news programme so he could be ridiculed in real time. All very interesting. Don't step outside the party line even if you're an outsider.

The truth? Birmingham is 20% Moslem and most of them are congregated in a small number of inner-city suburbs (Sparkhill, Sparkbrook, Saltley, so on). The whites have long fled to the periphery and the Afro-Caribs (or whatever the politically correct term is these days, I haven't had time to ask Benedict Cumberbatch) are not far behind. I have walked in those areas and shopped there, (a few years back now, but I doubt it's got any easier) and whilst not being shown hostility, I have certainly been greeted with suspicion. They are self-imposed ghettos, just like Tower Hamlets - to the extent that I was uneasy walking in those areas and would not go back. The Fox News reporter was as not totally off-beam as some would have you believe.
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Re: Multiculturalism

Postby Aggers » 03 Feb 2015, 14:27

I don't know much about modern Birmingham, but I know that once, when I went
into the city in a taxi, I was amazed when passing through some of the suburbs
- it could have been some Asian town - plenty of shoppers but none that looked
like my old-fashioned idea of English. To be honest I would be scared to walk
along some of those streets. I don't blame them for congregating together -
that is only natural - the rule of birds of a feather, but integration isn't really
working, is it? Well, I don't think so.
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Re: Multiculturalism

Postby Suff » 03 Feb 2015, 17:54

It's not just the gathering together Aggers, it's the suspicion and exclusionism which gets me most.

Back in 97 I was in Zurich. A friend of mine, one of my colleagues, was a Moslem and asked me to come over and meet three fellow Moslems who were over from North Africa. They had an old PC and Shaheen had asked if I'd come over and tell them what they needed to do to upgrade it. They'd cook me a meal I was told.

So I went over and had the meal which was a really excellent curry, looked at the PC which was so old there was no way to really upgrade it effectively and we spent some time talking about things in general before I left. One of the topics of fairly obsessive conversation was about Halal produce. No Pork and how difficult it was to ensure that you didn't get pork in any prepackaged food. That I was happy to agree with, different parts of cows, pigs and lambs wind up in things you would never expect.

The next one floored me though. When one of the guys confidently stated that you couldn't rely on what was written on the package because the Swiss deliberately put Pork in the product and then marked the product as no pork to force Moslems to eat Pork........

There was general agreement to that until I reminded them that the Swiss laws are quite strict on food labelling and anyone caught doing that would face severe penalties. Then I reminded them that they were such a small part of the population (then), that they probably didn't even figure on the radar of the companies even for targeted marketing for non Pork products as the volume run would be too low.

The attitude was breathtaking. They clearly believed that a) They were so important that someone would go to lengths to inconvenience them and b) that the whole world was out to get them and they could only trust their own type.

So called "Multiculturalism" will never break down that kind of attitude and having them live in self contained Enclaves where they don't even need to learn the language or interact with natives (to the point where councils have to provide multi language forms and translation), fosters exactly the attitude I saw in Switzerland.

As I have said many times. Everyone is welcome in my circle until they prove themselves not worthy. Any creed, colour or race. The problem is that the good, fine, upstanding Moslems are not in the majority and the others are being pandered to in a way which increases their natural superiority.

There is not one single racist thing I what I have written. From me. However, from the other standpoint, well I leave that to you.....
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Re: Multiculturalism

Postby cromwell » 03 Feb 2015, 18:12

The problem with multiculturalism (or one of them anyway) is that it actively encourages separation, not integration.

Multiculturalism has meant that you can live in this country and maintain your own culture, language and customs just as if you had never left your own land. So now our politicians are panicking about the lack of integration of young Muslims with the mainstream UK.

Well.. yeah. Multiculturalism has been official policy for ever, and it breeds separatism. Now politicians are running around squawking that Muslims "embrace British values", whatever they may be, thus flatly contradicting decades of social policy.
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Re: Multiculturalism

Postby Workingman » 03 Feb 2015, 19:04

Sauff wrote:.... one of the guys confidently stated that you couldn't rely on what was written on the package because the Swiss deliberately put Pork in the product and then marked the product as no pork to force Moslems to eat Pork........

The flip side of that patrticular coin is that a similar thing actually has been perpetrated against non Moslems with halal meat being secretly introduced into such places as schools, hospitals and supermarkets, even though many of us would not want our meat to be slaughtered that way.
Cromwell wrote:Now politicians are running around squawking that Muslims "embrace British values", whatever they may be, thus flatly contradicting decades of social policy.

Absolutely, but we will not get any of the architects of mult-culti to stand up and shout fromm the rooftops that they were wrong. Nor will they apologise for hounding a man, Enoch Powell, to his deathbed for pointing out what could happen.
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Re: Multiculturalism

Postby Suff » 04 Feb 2015, 20:44

Well and we have one of the other examples of "Multiculturalism" and Political Correctness in Rotheram.

Government commissioners are taking over Rotherham Council amid damning fresh evidence that it failed to tackle widespread sex abuse in the town because of “misplaced political correctness” and then tried to silence people who wanted to expose the scandal.


They subjected more than 1,400 children to rape, violence and trafficking over a 16-year period. According to the report, senior figures at the council were reluctant to intervene for fear of being labelled racist.


“People were unable to tackle race issues because they were too worried about being called racist. They decided such issues should be dealt with by people who were from the Pakistani community.”


Or not dealt with....

But Ms Casey said the number was “conservative” and criticised many of those she interviewed for doubting the figure, saying that the council and police should focus instead on taking “effective action” against abuse.


I mean, why accept the sheer scale of your failure if you can doubt it??

It was reported yesterday that two Rotherham councillors and a police officer in the town had been accused of having sex with victims of abuse.

The police officer has also been accused of passing information on to abusers in the town, while a colleague of the officer has reportedly been accused of failing to take appropriate action after receiving information about his conduct.


Scared or "involved"??

The report was also damning about South Yorkshire Police’s response. “[The girls] were threatened with wasting police time; they were told they had consented to sex and, on occasion, they were arrested at the scene of a crime, rather than the perpetrators.”


So, not only did the Police not do their job, they actually aided and abetted the criminals.

I can just see the types who infested the council. This is far too close to my birthplace for me to not recognise the types. Funnily enough it was people like this who convinced me that there was no future in my home town. Seems I was not disappointed in my assessment of the character type.
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Re: Multiculturalism

Postby TheOstrich » 04 Feb 2015, 22:31

I want to see heads roll in South Yorkshire Police as well as in Rotherham Council - and not just confined to the upper management.

I have heard of a report (understood to be a BBC Radio 4 item on today's 1:00 News) that someone leaving a chippie in Rotherham saw Pakistani taxi drivers chatting up white girls. There were two PCSOs nearby. He pointed out to the PCSOs what was happening and asked them to intervene. They just turned their backs and walked away.

If this is truly what happened, it's those PCSOs I want targeted for dereliction of duty, not just the police and council bosses. There is rot from the top to the bottom.
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