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Postby Suff » 05 Jan 2015, 23:06

How the Telegraph could spout this total BS is beyond me. Well unless they are determined to keep UKIP out?

Let me be clear to this statement...

A grand Tory-Labour coalition might be good for British business


No it will NOT. All it can possibly do is damage the reputations of both parties even further.

Interestingly, I looked up Sweden again today. The two main parties have done a totally unprecedented thing. They have done a deal in which the left gets to rule until 2016 and the right gets to rule until 2022. Thus, unless the Sweden Democrats actually get an overall majority, they will be locked out of Swedish politics until 2022. Thus taking immigration off the agenda for the next 8 years.

They think.

Is the Telegraph thinking that Labour and the Tories can do the same to the UKIP and the SNP? My guess is that Sweden will see a huge drop in the votes for both the left and the right with another large increase in the votes for the Sweden Democrats. I do wonder, what would happen if they did win? Would they interfere in the party as they did in Austria? To have a different result? That would NOT go down well in Sweden and would not play well in any of the EUSkeptic countries....

The Telegraph has just added itself to my BSometer... Something I didn't expect to see.

Of course, we have the results of the Greek elections on the 25th and Hollande of France is already saying that if Syriza win they can exit the Euro, but must live up to their obligations.... Naturally; denominated in Drachma......

I wonder how all that will play for Farage???? If the UK press actually pick up on it....
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Postby cromwell » 06 Jan 2015, 10:40

If there is any bad news in Euro land, BBC TV try to avoid mentioning it. If they are forced into mentioning it they give it as little air time as they can and spin it massively.

All I can think of atm re our general election is.......... aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarghhh!

They've started already and it isn't until May! :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:
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Postby TheOstrich » 06 Jan 2015, 13:38

If there is any news in Euro land, BBC TV try to avoid mentioning it. If they are forced into mentioning it they give it as little air time as they can and spin it massively.


Not much in the media over the Dresden Pegida marches; where they have been reported it's been overwhelmingly negative.
But the marches have got Merkel worried enough to issue a finger-wag .....

All I can think of atm re our general election is.......... aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarghhh!


Cheer up, Crommers, Millipede's going to come and bang on your door and ask you to man the breaches to defend the NHS. Assuming you're one of the 4 million, that is. Bet you no Labourite knocks on my door .... :lol:
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Re: They've started already

Postby cromwell » 06 Jan 2015, 14:13

TheOstrich wrote:Cheer up, Crommers, Millipede's going to come and bang on your door and ask you to man the breaches to defend the NHS. Assuming you're one of the 4 million, that is. Bet you no Labourite knocks on my door .... :lol:


I must remember to buy a dog so I can set it on any political canvassers... ;)

The BBC is strange. There was a full and fair report on Pegida this morning on BBC Radio 4. But on BBC TV news? 10 seconds if that, mainly devoted to Frau Murkington saying what rotters Pegida are.

No explanation of who, why, where or what, just a one liner.

Similar to the situation in Greece.

There a left wing coalition is in the lead in the polls. There is a Greek general election coming up in a matter of weeks.

The leader of this coalition says if they get in, EU austerity is cancelled in Greece and the Germans can do one.

On BBC TV news? Another offhand one liner.
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Postby Suff » 06 Jan 2015, 18:56

I'm sure none will escape unscathed Ossie.

Syriza have not said they will cancel austerity, they have said they would reschedule the debt to their benefit and not to the creditors benefit. They have also said that this can be done within the Euro.

To be fair if they rescheduled the existing debt for, say, 100 years and dropped the interest rates accordingly, they already run a budget surplus so they would not need to borrow money if they were not paying more than their GDP tax revenues in interest.

Of course all the creditors will refuse and then it'll become one huge furball with Greece having to exit the Euro, debt being redenominated in Drachma and everyone loses their shirt. A classic case of creditors squeezing the debtor until they lose money on the deal...

Syriza are not even talking about Euro exit because the people don't want to leave. They think they can just muddle few for a few more years and it will all be fixed. They have no clue that the EU is going to enter a lost quarter century (forget Japan's lost decade), with growth so low that the debt will never depreciate. They will simply have to pay it off and that may take them a century or more.

All such wonderful stuff and the press keep on blathing on about things they have absolutely NO clue about....
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