nhs

[saundra]

Yesterday PM announced big New programs to cut waiting list?
Today quite a few major hospital,s are in crisis mod with people waiting to see a doctor for 50 hours it's beyond broken
Hope some brave soul tells the PM soon

[Kaz]

I think we need to give the current lot a chance Saundra. I genuinely hope things improve soon, as it sounds pretty dire from posts you've made about your local services (((x)))

[saundra]

Yes it's beyond dire even our a\e is closed now 10hours wait for an ambulance the nhs is to many managers as well rant over

[victor]

Just blowing hot air to make it sound good

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[cromwell]

Since 1989 the number of NHS beds has halved.
Given that the population has got way bigger since 1989 it doesn't take a genius to work out that this is going to result in massive problems.

[medsec222]

I was just watching the news and the Royal Liverpool Hospital has also reached crisis point, one patient having waited 50 hours to be seen in A&E.

Sir Keir's announcement that the NHS will be using the privatre sector to keep the waiting lists down is nothing new. This has been happening for a number of years now. I had my cataract operations done in the private sector. I had the choice where I wanted to go and I went to a private clinic on the NHS. I had both eyes done and I couldn't fault the service. I hope Sir Keir will be building on the previous success of using the private sector to keep waiting lists down.

[Workingman]

I am with Saundra re management.

This is largely due to the introduction of the internal market or "Trusts" in 1990. All this did was duplicate management functions. Where we once had Regional Health Authorities overseeing many numbers of hospitals within an area we now have these Trusts each headed by a board consisting of executive and non-executive directors, and chaired by a non-executive director. They add nothing to the medical operation of the NHS.

As for beds... it is not as simple as saying there are 50% fewer than on such a date. The bulk of beds lost were in mental health and learning disabilitie services which were moved to care in the community. Yet more were moved to day care systems due to improvements in medical procedures - ops - that needed shorter stays in hospital.

Having said that we are still pushing the capacity of acute care beds, especially in winter, as we are seeing just now.