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Election result

PostPosted: 05 Jul 2024, 08:53
by cromwell
It all turned out pretty much as expected, didn't it?
Turnout down, Labour vote slightly increased, Tory vote collapsed. I didn't expect Reform to come third in the popular vote though.

Labour's vote was up by 1.5%, the Tories down by a whisker under 20%.
A majority of 210 so far, with a barely changed share of the vote! Extraordinary.
Reform gets 14.3% of the vote and four MP's, the LibDems 12.2% and they get seventy one MP's!

This is pretty indefensible, whoever you support. how are we going to encourage people to vote when this happens?

The Tory blame game has already started. The One Nation crew are saying it's all Johnson's fault.
Quite how this can be possible considering he was dumped two years since, is not entirely clear. Neither was he responsible for Truss and her mini-budget, or her removal by a coup, nor was he responsible for Mr Sensible Centrist Sunak getting the job and failing miserably. The One Nationers are saying that none of this is their fault. Well actually lads, it is.

Four Green MP's! On 6.8% of the vote?
And the SNP getting a bigger battering than a deep fried sausage, losing 38 MPs.

Prediction; inside eighteen months Starmer will be about as popular as the Black Death.

eta - in the 2019 election Keir Starmer got 36,641 votes. In 2024 he got 18,884. Extraordinary.

Re: Election result

PostPosted: 05 Jul 2024, 09:51
by Suff
I bet the Lib Dems won't be heard saying a word about PR for quite a while.

Re: Election result

PostPosted: 05 Jul 2024, 11:07
by Kaz
That’s FPTP for you. To be honest, although I am personally pleased with the result, PR would be more democratic.

Re: Election result

PostPosted: 05 Jul 2024, 11:08
by Workingman
I see that Sunak has officially resigned as Prime Minister and also as Conservative Party leader.

Let the in-fighting begin!

Re: Election result

PostPosted: 05 Jul 2024, 11:42
by Suff
Kaz wrote:That’s FPTP for you. To be honest, although I am personally pleased with the result, PR would be more democratic.


It is democratic but not as decisive. I'm more interested in the fact that those who champion it when not winning stay silent when it is winning for them.

Re: Election result

PostPosted: 05 Jul 2024, 11:43
by Suff
Workingman wrote:I see that Sunak has officially resigned as Prime Minister and also as Conservative Party leader.

Let the in-fighting begin!


More the exodus of viable candidates. Reform is going to grow.

Re: Election result

PostPosted: 05 Jul 2024, 12:37
by cromwell
Workingman wrote:I see that Sunak has officially resigned as Prime Minister and also as Conservative Party leader.

Let the in-fighting begin!



Tbh, it started before the election.
The One Nation wets like Noakes, Tugendhat and Mitchell will be repeating the mantra that elections are only ever won from the centre, which is demonstrably untrue, and that it was all Johnson's fault (debateable to say the least).
Badenoch (allegedly a right winger) is the favourite to become leader though.

Re: Election result

PostPosted: 05 Jul 2024, 14:11
by Workingman
Regarding the turnout.

Just listening on the radio and it was said that it was a tad over 60% and one of the reasons given for it being low was that for many people the result of the election was already known and so there was no pressure on them to get out and vote.

That went for the traditional main parties. Only Reform Ltd had that 'new party' value and appeal. There is a ring of truth in what was being said.

Where I live became a new constituency due to boundary changes and the turnout was 70% because there was all to play for.

Re: Election result

PostPosted: 05 Jul 2024, 14:27
by saundra
It stayed conservative here the twit.heads

Re: Election result

PostPosted: 05 Jul 2024, 14:47
by TheOstrich
Workingman wrote:I see that Sunak has officially resigned as Prime Minister and also as Conservative Party leader.
Let the in-fighting begin!


If either Badenoch or Braverman gets the party leadership, the Tories will simply render themselves unelectable.

Crommers wrote:Reform gets 14.3% of the vote and four MP's, the LibDems 12.2% and they get seventy one MP's!
This is pretty indefensible, whoever you support.


Precisely - completely ridiculous.

As is the fact that the so-called Pro-Palestinian movement has more MPs now than Reform or the Greens.
To me that's an extremely sinister development that will only further fracture our already fragile society.