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Is in a spot of bother.
Ten thousand "migrants" a week are heading for New York.
New York, which declared itself a "sanctuary city" some time ago, is compelled to feed and try to house the vast number of migrants that are arriving there every week. (Compelled because of some local law passed seven years since).
The problem is that the cost of feeding and housing said migrants (aka illegal immigrants) is now approaching the billions.
Plus ordinary New Yorkers (who already pay some of the highest taxes in America) are leaving the city.

So as New York's costs go up, it's ability to meet those costs goes down; and now talk of bankruptcy is in the air.

Financially damaging, yes, but also a disaster for community and social cohesion.

We are just at the beginning of this, there are millions more to follow, and they are all coming north to a place near you.

The Beeb were reporting that Lampedusa has received 8,000 boat migrants in 3 days. The normal population of the whole island is only 6-7,000 .....

The Derna disaster and the continuing failure of Libya as a state is only going to exacerbate this.
We really needs to put differences aside and work with the EU to sort out how, as a "continent", we're going to cope with this mess, because it ain't going to get any better.

Well, these people are not going to stop coming. Treaties, summits, conferences and sweet reason make no impression on them.
The only thing that is going to work is force.

Unless politicians accept that and act on it, this crisis is only going to get worse.

Handing out vast sums of taxpayers money to other countries is not going to stop the boats. I don't see the harm in working with our European neighbours to try and establish a common goal, but in the end it comes down to the UK taking firm action and making its own decisions, preferably ones that will work. The duty of government is first and foremost to the inhabitants of the UK, and whilst millions of pounds is being spent on housing illegal immigrants and economic migrants, there is less taxpayers money to be spent on improving the infrastructure, replacing run down schools, building affordable homes for those on low incomes, policing, social care, etc.

Things are getting out of control now and they will only get worse.

It's not a State thing, it is a North / South (inter) continental thing.

Those in S. America are heading north, but are not stopping in Mexico, all they want is the US or Canada.

Africans are heading north to the Med aiming for W. Europe and Scandinavia.

People in the M.E are not heading east towards China or the Orent or north to Armenia, Azerbaijan Georgia or Russia. They swing west then up through Turkey also heading for Europe / Scandinavia.

These are mass migrations and are happening now. They will increase. And, no, they are largely NOT an asylum or refugee thing.

TheOstrich wrote:We really needs to put differences aside and work with the EU to sort out how, as a "continent", we're going to cope with this mess, because it ain't going to get any better.

Absolutely right.

Kaz wrote:

TheOstrich wrote:We really needs to put differences aside and work with the EU to sort out how, as a "continent", we're going to cope with this mess, because it ain't going to get any better.

Absolutely right.

How?

I await your ever-so-easy answers.

Hotels? Tents? Gunboats? The door is open...

There is one hotel in the town which isfull of immigrants, another on the norther outskirts with immigrans and now a third on on the northern outskirts has been
earmarked for immigrants. Big local demonstration tryingto stop it. They are all young men. Where are the women and young children?

When my DIL first came to England to live, she is Japanese, she had to go out of the country for 48 hours every twelve months. That was 29 years ago.
She did not get any help and was working to support herself.

Every country has the problem of illegal immigrants except China and Rusia

TheOstrich wrote:The Beeb were reporting that Lampedusa has received 8,000 boat migrants in 3 days. The normal population of the whole island is only 6-7,000 .....

The Derna disaster and the continuing failure of Libya as a state is only going to exacerbate this.
We really needs to put differences aside and work with the EU to sort out how, as a "continent", we're going to cope with this mess, because it ain't going to get any better.

Say what? You think the EU is united on this? They have as many divisions on this as they did when we were a member. Perhaps more.

The EU has rules. Nobody applies them. When the illegals land the EU springs into action and breaches all it's own laws to "protect" the poor creatures. They then make their way to the most beneficial state, for them, again illegally, to apply for asylum.

Hoping that we can create a "fix" with the EU on this is folly. They can't fix themselves. Let alone us.