Vocal Voices

The UN is a soft touch, weak, not fit for purpose and a waste of money and resources.

The thing is that Trump is saying what many of us, and I suspect many national leaders, think.

The US will not pull out, obviously, it has a very useful veto, but I for one expect it to be a lot more forceful in the coming years. Not before time.

Additionally, he told it as it is on North Korea. Nobody can ever accuse the US of not laying out their position. One missile dropped by accident on Japan or whatever, and yes, there will be war. If Rocket-man escalates it nuclear, yes, he will be obliterated.

There are aspects of Trump I quite like, to be honest. At least he does tell it as it is, which is more than can be said for many, many other politicians.

As for the UN, it's a talking shop, an irrelevance really, and since some of its subsidiary organisations have started hectoring us as to what we should or should not do, I have no time for it.

The Donald has come out of this quite well. Perhaps he will surprise us all yet.

TheOstrich wrote:There are aspects of Trump I quite like, to be honest.

I have felt that way, too for some time .We could do with more politicians like him,
rather than some of the ones we are loaded with, who don't seem to care a damn
what is best for the people they are supposed to be representing, as long as they
can pursue their own perverted ways.

medsec222 wrote:The Donald has come out of this quite well. Perhaps he will surprise us all yet.

He hasn't surprised me yet. I've expected what he has done. It is those who read the press and believe them, on Trump, who are surprised over and over again.

I do wonder when people will realise that the press are telling people what they want people to believe Trump is. The miracle is that enough people ignored the press and the media and voted for what he said he would do.

So far he has not retracted on any of his promises. Although he may have been blocked from doing them a few times.

About time the world realised that he's dead serious. Start a war and he'll finish it. Permanently!

It took a while, back I finally got why Trump gets so much stick from the media.

Not because of his antedeluvian attitudes to women, or the fact that he is a bit vulgar (like having a gold front door). Not even because he beat Hilary Clinton (or rather she managed to beat herself).

It's because he is an outsider, a man who never before held elected office, a man from outside the Washington machine. Outside machine politics, even of his own party.

Mainstream politics is edging towards open borders; Trump is so pro-borders he wants to build a wall on the Mexican border!
Most politicians firmly believe in mass migration; Trump wanted to ban immigration from certain Muslim countries. An entirely logical view imo and in many others view too.

/some of his policies are far closer to the ordinary people than they are to professional poiticians and the liberal media - and they hate him for it, for the fact that he espouses policies which ordinary people want but they do not.

cromwell wrote:Some of his policies are far closer to the ordinary people than they are to professional poiticians and the liberal media -
and they hate him for it, for the fact that he espouses policies which ordinary people want but they do not.

That is my view too, Cromwell.

I think that is why it was such a shock to the remainers when we voted out. They felt sure the rank and file would do what they had been told was good for them. Instead they voted on instinct.

The thing is that the media loves 'populist' politicians in order to bring them down. They are, well, incincere, weak, chancers, inconsistent, vote grabbers and sound-bite shills. The media destroys them in an attempt to get us to vote for their chosen favourites - and it often works.

Then along comes Trump the anti-populist and the media is in a quandry. Trump comes up with policies he knows damned well are against the thinking of a large section of the electorate, but as soon as the media starts up he comes out fighting. "I am only saying things you have hidden from Americans with your PC nonsense, fake news and hidden agendas..." (paraphrase)

The avarage Yank then thinks "yeah, well done" and Trump is quids in.

Can't stand the man, end of. He has yet to say or do anything with which I agree.