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Please, Jeremy. pretty please help me.

PostPosted: 10 Jul 2017, 09:07
by Workingman
Most serious papers, FT, Times, Telegraph, Guardian and 'I' are all reporting that Theresa is having a bit of a problem with her backbenchers and so is calling on Jeremy and Labour to shore her up, to give her their support to deliver Brexit. It is being presented by the Tories as a 'cross-party unity appeal' but the papers are having none of it. They all see it as a re-launch due to her political weakness.

The gall of the woman is astounding.

She played fast and loose with the law in calling an opportunistic election, one in which she hoped to annihilate Labour, yet now that she finds herself and her policies in trouble she wants them to be best buddies and lifelong friends.

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PostPosted: 10 Jul 2017, 09:57
by AliasAggers
Don't worry.

These are her last throes. She'll be going soon.

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PostPosted: 10 Jul 2017, 10:04
by medsec222
You know what they say about a drowning man!

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PostPosted: 10 Jul 2017, 15:19
by Kaz
Hopefully she is on the way out!

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PostPosted: 10 Jul 2017, 16:00
by Workingman
It is a bit of a double edged sword, though.

May and The Tories are already making a pig's ear of Brexit, but who would any of us want to take over? The Coronation of Johnson or Gove would almost certainly bring the Tories down and then we would be into another general election.... and the wheels turn again.

If anything could make the Tories take their eye off the Brexit ball more than they already have it is power play for May's chair.

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PostPosted: 10 Jul 2017, 18:06
by Suff
Workingman wrote:If anything could make the Tories take their eye off the Brexit ball more than they already have it is power play for May's chair.


Which is why the news from the power brokers in the Tory party is that they want Brexit over. Then she's dogmeat...

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PostPosted: 11 Jul 2017, 08:09
by cromwell
This is political ineptitude of the highest order. The Tories actually won the election, but you'd not think so.

They are giving the impression that they are having a look at some of the things Corbyn said in the election, thinking "If we say that, we might get some votes too", and copying it. Hence the calls to end austerity from Tories, look at getting rid of student loans, etc etc.

They are cringing in front of the Labour party. If Corbyn said Labour's new policy is to make people stand on one leg at bus stops, May would be supporting it next week.

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PostPosted: 11 Jul 2017, 11:48
by Suff
cromwell wrote:This is political ineptitude of the highest order. The Tories actually won the election, but you'd not think so.


That's because they didn't win the election. They emerged as the largest single party in a hung parliament and won the mandate to try to form a government in some sort of patched up coalition which compromises everything they ever promised.

The greatest irony of all is that 60% of the UKIP voters voted for this total and complete mess. They were Labour voters who hated the EU so much they voted for Cameron, so they could get a chance to leave the EU. Then, when May asked for that same support in order to actually deliver the exit from the EU????? They all ran away and voted for Labour...

Honestly, sometimes the irony is simply too much!

The saddest thing is that you could make this up. In fact, with clear hindsight, it could easily have been predicted.

This is what the people voted for and they need to suck it up and get on with it. Not spend endless hours saying "Oooh look, what the hell are they doing now". The answer to that question is "what you voted for them to do".

Spending endless hours railing at a government, given no choice by the very people who made this situation, by the people who made this situation, is not the cleverest thing I've ever seen.

Let us be clear here. May will do _every_ _single_ _thing_ she needs to do in order to deliver Brexit for the people. If that means that we get the ECJ because Tory EUphiles want it, then you are going to get it. If that means we have to just bend over and take it on a trade deal because the majority of the house not inhabited by the Tories, plus the Tory rebels want it; then that is what is going to happen.

The sooner people realise that May will not stand down, that the Tories will not replace May, until Brexit is over, the sooner and smoother, this is going to be executed.

If people don't like it?

The next time someone asks them for a vote to deliver what they, those very same people, expressly asked to be done: It would be best to vote for it and not against it!